We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. If you believe everything said in this article then you must not have spent much or any time in a fundamental church. No one leaves on good terms unfortunately. God divorced Israel but Not judah..Jesus is the Lion of the tribe of WHAT?? I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. Independent Fundamental Baptist I forgave through the example of Jesus. Much to their horror, they could not find a church that had a Wednesday night service anywhere in the area. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. If you have others please feel free to share in the comments section, 1. 33 Snakes! Read one thing, make a judgment that Im just bitter and move on. 40. Yes, see my answer to your first question. However, some (I agree Ogrodnik) are unfair and judgmental. Because of your traditions you have destroyed the authority of Gods word. God Bless. IF you are a single Independent Fundamental Baptist where do you go to meet other single Independent Fundamental Baptists? But I did want to let you know that although some ifb churches may not be the best it doesnt make us a cult. (Job 3:16; Psalm 51:5; 139:14-16; Isaiah 44:24; 49:1, 5; Jeremiah 1:5; 20:15-18; Luke 1:44), We believe that God has ordained and created all authority which consists of three basic institutions: (1) the home, (2) the church, and (3) the state. [1], New IFB churches have caused controversy on several occasions, because of their opposition to homosexuality. If the IFB churches are hurting the cause of Christ, would your attitude and example also hurt His cause. Pastor preaches against smoking because it is bad for the body My preacher never preaches that though there are very few people at my current church that smoke. If you believe that everyone who opposes IFB doctrine is just bitter, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 48. 3. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith If you think anything other than a suit and tie for men is too casual for Sundays, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 11. Remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees? Im still separate I have just decided to sin. Oh yes, and he forgot the most important, essential factorrelated to KJV reliancevirtual ignorance of and illiteracy in biblical Hebrew and Greek!!!!!!!! Peace. The Bible is inspired and preserved by God and carries His absolute authority. The Conservative Baptist Association: "Winning the World" Me and my husband got saved 3 1/2 years ago at an IFB church. If you attend a church each Sunday with a team of men that keeps track of attendence each Sunday In our congregation, we do not do that. Their testimony is great Im sure they won more people to the lord than you. I do agree that its not sinful about renting movies or watching them on TV. We believe the King James Bible to be inerrant. When you discover that female is indeed wearing the acceptable dress, skirt or koulotts youre so relieved to know that shes right with God ! 8. We went to th IFB church that next day to say we went to get them off our back. Instead of attempting to find humor , find time to pray for them. God Wasnt going to see our fornicating as bringing glory to him. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. People that oppose things is due to beliefs, so I believe if you oppose the IFB church its because you dont believe what their teaching not because there bitter. I like that about them and not just them but the whole church, because the company you keep will influence you. That is contrary to Bible doctrine for a pastor. We believe that God created the entire universe in six literal, twenty-four-hour days (Genesis 1:1-27). I love the Lord with all my heart-I attend church when I want and where I wantbut mostly I have bible studies with Christian friends in coffee shops, homes, and restaurants and (I usually have on a pair of blue jeans. WebActs 15:36,41; 16:5; I Corinthians 16:1; Galatians 1:1-3; Revelation 1:4, 10, 11. If you think that tattoos are marks of the Devil, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 20. Southern Baptist Beliefs 11 The greatest among you must be a servant. I will never forget that day that I sat in my pastors car and he prayed with me, he didnt know what was happening in my life, but he knew I needed someone to pray with and I could see it in his eyes. 25. (Mat 22:37-40) Can you honestly say that this is of God. Independent Baptist churches (some also called Independent Fundamental Baptist or IFB) are Christian congregations, generally holding to conservative (primarily fundamentalist) Baptist beliefs. They try there best to live for Christ and to give God the glory for everything. The New IFB's website lists its core doctrines as salvation by faith alone, once saved always saved, King James Bible-only, the Trinity, soul-winning, "hard" preaching, prewrath post-tribulation rapture, and opposition of worldliness, Calvinism, dispensationalism, liberalism, and Zionism. It was organized in Cicero, Illinois, U.S., in June 1930 as the successor to the American Conference of I like door knocking is any of our church compelled to do so? That being said, your list is probably only funny to those of us who have lived it. They are as tragic as they are true and yes the IFB movement went ver overboard on many standards and traditions. 42. The IFB church I attend preaches cleaning the heart not performing works. Im sad to here that fellow Christians cant get along, and I will start praying for all Churchs to be revived. Independent Fundamental Baptist or Bible-Believing Baptist) are a particularly cranky fundamentalist branch of unaffiliated 31 But in saying that, you testify against yourselves that you are indeed the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 13. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. And as the word independent implies, we are not all alike. They will not participate, as a church, in any outside function with churches which do not also strictly base their faith and practice on the New Testament. Most people find it hard to swallow that anyone really thinks that way at all. He granted his permission to work in the Infant Ministry and Toddler, and 3-4 year old Ministry. I did learn a lot. I am a pastor of a Baptist church, but rather than call myself INDEPENDENT, I call myself unaffiliated with the other Baptist Churches. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. anything that even remotely appears to be worldly means that you arent being separate, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 44. We can joke around about a differing denomination that we dont agree with, but how we react to a situation that wasnt intended, also matters greatly. We believe that salvation is by grace plus nothing minus nothing. I go to an IFB church and thought a few of your statements could be funny if in the right spirit, some not so much and others I found untrue altogether. Welcome to the Duggars world of Independent This is the only church Ive been to, so I just awsume all Churchs are loving, caring, forgiving, honest, and strive to bring glory to god and its just sad to here that thats not the case. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? Forgiving someone has nothing to do with whether or not you believe that Jesus died for their sins. Also, Im not mocking Biblical beliefs. Thanks. Are these points form the KJV Bible or is it carved from the principles from scriptures. Years ago, I heard a very funny but truthful skit on what was or wasnt OK. Each verse ended with, Its OK, because Independent Fundamental Baptist Preachers do it.. Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: God Bless. Does the lord convict me when I miss? This list reminded me of a few I forgot about, but one I dont think youve mentioned yet is If your teenage boys and girls have to be separate and swim in different pools or at different times when you are on a teen outing or camping trip lol. I can tolerate the other bits that go over board as long I am believing the word and get correct non compromising bible teaching. New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist - Wikipedia Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. Every person is individually responsible to God and will be judged according to the beliefs and practices he or she freely chooses. Many of these, yes are extreme, be we also need to not be compromising in some areas. We believe that speaking in tongues was never the common or necessary sign of the baptism or filling of the Holy Spirit and that ultimate deliverance of the body from sickness or death awaits the consummation of our salvation in the resurrection, though God frequently chooses to answer the prayer of believers for physical healing. Please dont mistake this for a lack of respect or an attempt to minimize the seriousness of the abuse that happens among the Independent Fundamental Bapitsts. The two are completely unrelated. If you might confuse KJV with KJB its the same thing but its a preference on how people might want to call it. A strong percentage of our funding comes through several hundred local churches who support Every person is subject to these authorities, but all (including the authorities themselves) are answerable to God and are governed by His Word. It didnt raise red flags for me. I thought youd like that. 24. 41. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. Some of these are very much right on the money. You might be a hypocrite if you dedicate a whole website to exposing deception while using it.??? When you finally get the blinders off let me know, we will rejoice with you. Well I am a little confused. First wash the inside of the cup and the dish,[i] and then the outside will become clean, too. In fact, if you're single you know what I'm talking about. If you believe that all Catholics are going to hell, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 35. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brothers eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? If your pastor refuses to be called Reverend, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Plus they pray to the saints. Members come into the church personally, individually, and freely. We believe that the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible makes us Baptists. to show me the folly of my performance-based religion. I know the answers now. Lol. Since God looks at Jesus to forgive Ill look at Jesus also to forgive. The Lord is doing His work in ths world through local churches. Should we stay living together with our baby in fornication? But what He hates about us is the pride and arrogance in us. Why would I even send a lost loved one to church instead of sharing the gospel with them for that matter? It is awful that they put the rules and instructions of their mythology ahead of their love for 19. If your pastor is telling you otherwise hes a heretic. Christ died for his sin already, so he had already been forgiven by God. We had no money.. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. If your youth pastor eats a goldfish or gives away a baseball cap for every visitor a child brings, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Jesus said I came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.. Judah has always been with God. We should not tell who are the good and bad Christians because we should treat everyone with love just like God loves every one of us. Rather than attack one another, perhaps understand where both are coming from? If you believe that attending an IFB church is the only way to hear the true gospel and get saved, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 36. WebAn independent, fundamental Baptist, local church oriented faith Mission serving Baptist and Bible churches in their missions outreaches and church planting around the world. is Looking to God for missionaries to help expand the vision and ministries of G.F.F. If you think that tithing 10% of your gross income is the minimum, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 6. I truly believe the IFB pastor and wife was just doing their job. If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. The Pastor leads, feeds, guides, and guards the church at the direction of Christ. 7. We believe that the souls of unbelievers remain, after death, in conscious misery until the second resurrection, when with soul and body reunited they shall appear at the Great White Throne Judgment, and shall be cast into the Lake of Fire, not to be annihilated, but to suffer everlasting, conscious punishment (Luke 16:19-26; Matthew 25:41-46; II Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 6-7; Mark 9:43-48; Revelation 20:11-15). That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. I have an old high school friend here with me who started visiting churches. I will have to argue that while on vacation we just go to church somewhere else rather than dashing home. Ill fight against the abusive traditions and teachings of the IFB till I die. 21. Gospel Furthering Fellowship If you party, DO NOT drink. I dare say probably not. I was taught that. I dont believe my husband was the only one hurting the relationship. Believing that going to the movies is sinful but not renting them or watching them on TV I dont see anything wrong about going to the movies because I went to the movies years ago. I forgave and praise the lord in my life forgiveness was indeed profitable. Anderson, Fannin and Shelley traded accusations of financial wrongdoing and running a cult. JUDAH. However, the churches are united by a number of doctrines. You should do something else with the time God has aloud you.Nonsense is not what people need to hear. We believe in the bodily resurrection of all men, the saved to eternal life, and the unsaved to judgment and everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28, 29, 11:25-26; Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13). Plus they believe that one cannot lose his salvation, Eternal Security, or Once Saved, Always Saved on the Calvinist view. 54. Gospel Light Baptist Church, Albany, Georgia. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher 19 How blind! Its method of operation is subversive. (1 Timothy 2:1-6; 1 Peter 2:5,9; Revelation 5:9,10), The local church is mandated by God to practice two ordinances. 24 Blind guides! God speaks to individuals through His Word and His Spirit. No, because I have said and thought some things I regret. This is simply an attempt to bring some humor to the blog for the readers enjoyment. Take a look here: https://www.openbible.info/topics/tithe_in_the_new_testament. (Acts 2:41-47; 1 Corinthians 12:12,18; 2 Corinthians 6:14; Hebrews 10:23-25), Scripture mandates two offices for the local church: Pastor and Deacon. you DVR the Superbowl (or watch sport center on your phone in the vestibule) because you cant miss church. If youve been taught that robbing God (not giving 10% of gross income) is the special, one specific sin that will cause God to lift all protection of your life and allow satan FULL LIBERTY to destroy you. I dare say it would be the one you enjoy making fun of. Due to the nature of the churches being independentin their autonomy, a percentage of what is believed, practiced or condemned by Independent Baptists (or IndependentFundamental Baptists, or Bible Believing Baptists, or IndependentBible Believing Baptists, or Unaffiliated Baptists, or Unaffiliated IndependentBaptists - just to It teaches parents to use their authority to prod, guide, and correct their children. If you want a discussion ask for one. (1 Timothy 3:1-13; Acts 6:1-7;Philippians 1:1), God established both civil and local church governments. Baptist Would you go back and pet a dog after it bit you? While I have no opinions on this I do agree that wives, from a biblical view, should be submissive to their husbands because its found in Ephesians 5:22-23: 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. That makes no sense. I was married when I attended before and now as a divorced woman, I know I probably would be looked down upon. Anderson and other New IFB pastors have praised the Orlando gay nightclub shooting. Our path is narrow, must we fight amongst each other while we walk it? Thanks for being thankful for the grace God has giving us. As far as tithing is concerned, the people who do tithe, it should be because they tithe because they want to. If you pray using KJV language (thee, though, ye, etc. You are quick to throw in a jab about how much you dislike them, but cannot tolerate anyone saying different. The Lord's Supper, or Communion, commemorates Christ's broken body and shed blood giving each believer an opportunity for self-examination and rededication. 51. If you (like Jason) come to this site to criticize sarcasm by hypocritically using sarcasm, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. Its a Biblical principle that we are commanded to follow. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. God cant forgive you if Jesus didnt save you. We believe that the New Testament church is a local assembly of baptized believers who have voluntarily joined themselves toge therto carry out the Great Commission. We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. *gasp* Just kidding, just kiddingwe at least look for Baptist on the sign so were good . If you laugh (snicker, sneer, roll your eyes, etc.) The list is quite helpful just in case one is wondering if theyre living through the motions or not though, but some things are definitely unbiblical to do whether youre IFB or not. If your church funnels in inner city kids via a bus ministry, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 24. 8. Im not sure where your pastor got that from, but its not in the Bible. I was in an IFB church for eight years and left because the weight of never feeling that I would be good enough for this church had worn me down. 50. Also, please scroll up for additional information regarding your objections which Ive responded to ad nauseam.